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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/288/comment-page-1#comment-15974</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 07:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jayne. Er, you&#039;re a wee bit late to this really old article :)

&gt; what were you expecting from escapist literature?

Escapist needn&#039;t mean terrible. Car magazine is escapist, and it&#039;s beautifully photographed and very well written. Edge magazine talks about videogames without assuming its readers are idiots. There are lots of examples. But at the time - and we are talking about a publishing phenomenon that was already running out of steam five years ago - the term &quot;men&#039;s magazine&quot; was starting to mean &quot;soft porn, football and pictures of horrible wounds&quot;. 

I think the argument I made at the time - that there wasn&#039;t a general interest men&#039;s magazine that was any good - was true.

&gt; women’s mags about celebs are really awful 

They are. And two of the magazines I named in the piece - Marie Claire and R - have changed since I wrote it. MC is a shadow of its former self, and R stopped publication a few years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jayne. Er, you&#8217;re a wee bit late to this really old article :)</p>
<p>> what were you expecting from escapist literature?</p>
<p>Escapist needn&#8217;t mean terrible. Car magazine is escapist, and it&#8217;s beautifully photographed and very well written. Edge magazine talks about videogames without assuming its readers are idiots. There are lots of examples. But at the time &#8211; and we are talking about a publishing phenomenon that was already running out of steam five years ago &#8211; the term &#8220;men&#8217;s magazine&#8221; was starting to mean &#8220;soft porn, football and pictures of horrible wounds&#8221;. </p>
<p>I think the argument I made at the time &#8211; that there wasn&#8217;t a general interest men&#8217;s magazine that was any good &#8211; was true.</p>
<p>> women’s mags about celebs are really awful </p>
<p>They are. And two of the magazines I named in the piece &#8211; Marie Claire and R &#8211; have changed since I wrote it. MC is a shadow of its former self, and R stopped publication a few years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/288/comment-page-1#comment-15971</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, what were you expecting from escapist literature?  Also, women&#039;s mags about celebs are really awful because (1) they publish untrue stories/claims about celebs and (2) they rehash and/or contradict the made-up story about said celeb the very next week.  It&#039;s just bad gossip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, what were you expecting from escapist literature?  Also, women&#8217;s mags about celebs are really awful because (1) they publish untrue stories/claims about celebs and (2) they rehash and/or contradict the made-up story about said celeb the very next week.  It&#8217;s just bad gossip.</p>
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		<title>By: meysam</title>
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		<dc:creator>meysam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/288/comment-page-1#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, I have the horrible feeling that you&#039;re absolutely correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, I have the horrible feeling that you&#8217;re absolutely correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/288/comment-page-1#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been wondering about this since 1985 at which time I resorted to the US Gentleman&#039;s Quarterly.

The issue I fear is profitability. The UK cannot sustain a niche men&#039;s magazine product; ultimately it will (as Maxim, GQ, For Him ((FHM)) and Arena will testify) move from its original differentiation position to one of the &#039;Vanilla Middle&#039; articulated successfully by Loaded.

Having isolated the real profit potential in the UK male and should we be so surprised, I give you The Sun as exhibit A, they must imitate or die.

The result is what you now see. Sadly a brave attempt by Zero magazine failed.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering about this since 1985 at which time I resorted to the US Gentleman&#8217;s Quarterly.</p>
<p>The issue I fear is profitability. The UK cannot sustain a niche men&#8217;s magazine product; ultimately it will (as Maxim, GQ, For Him ((FHM)) and Arena will testify) move from its original differentiation position to one of the &#8216;Vanilla Middle&#8217; articulated successfully by Loaded.</p>
<p>Having isolated the real profit potential in the UK male and should we be so surprised, I give you The Sun as exhibit A, they must imitate or die.</p>
<p>The result is what you now see. Sadly a brave attempt by Zero magazine failed.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/288/comment-page-1#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Men shagging everything that moves? I suspect the article would be better as an insight into how twentysomething men are all bullshitters :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men shagging everything that moves? I suspect the article would be better as an insight into how twentysomething men are all bullshitters :)</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/288/comment-page-1#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the last week I&#039;ve bought both Maxim and FHM.  Mainly because I had nothing better to do.  Both were utter gubbins.  I haven&#039;t actually read FHM for a while (I&#039;ve bought it and then couldn&#039;t be arsed actually reading it all the way through) but the last time I did I did get something out of it.  Not world-shattering journalism or anything but sometimes it was actually quite interesting.  I read all of FHM on a 30 minute plane ride and regretted not taking my book out of my case.  Badly written and pandering to the really, really thick.

Reading (by reading I mean skimming through and realising it wasn&#039;t worth it) Maxim this evening I thought it was even worse.  Example - stars obviously have hard lives so lets juxtapose a quote from that one-legged woman married to famous bloke about being harrassed by the media with a quote from a woman who had been gang-raped by soldiers somewhere in the middle-east.  I&#039;m not sure that really made the point.

Some of these womens magazines put the men&#039;s ones to shame though. More is obscene - I think that most of the FHM/Loaded writers would be embarrassed reading it front of their girlfriends.  I think a nymphomaniac reading it might feel a little inadequate.  Ruth bought one the other day - can&#039;t remember which one but I think it was one of the ones you mentioned.  It had a couple of excerpts from &quot;diaries&quot; from four so-called &quot;typical&quot; men in their twenties who basically shagged anything that moved for a week.  The bias of the article seemed to be that all men are like this and women would be shocked to find this out.

All we need is a quality newspaper to merge with the star or something.  Then you&#039;d get stuff to read inbetween ogling.

PS on the subject of the star - no, I didn&#039;t buy it - but it is another example of newspapers stealing images from the web and not crediting them. (Charles with Camilla as a horse from B3ta midweek.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last week I&#8217;ve bought both Maxim and FHM.  Mainly because I had nothing better to do.  Both were utter gubbins.  I haven&#8217;t actually read FHM for a while (I&#8217;ve bought it and then couldn&#8217;t be arsed actually reading it all the way through) but the last time I did I did get something out of it.  Not world-shattering journalism or anything but sometimes it was actually quite interesting.  I read all of FHM on a 30 minute plane ride and regretted not taking my book out of my case.  Badly written and pandering to the really, really thick.</p>
<p>Reading (by reading I mean skimming through and realising it wasn&#8217;t worth it) Maxim this evening I thought it was even worse.  Example &#8211; stars obviously have hard lives so lets juxtapose a quote from that one-legged woman married to famous bloke about being harrassed by the media with a quote from a woman who had been gang-raped by soldiers somewhere in the middle-east.  I&#8217;m not sure that really made the point.</p>
<p>Some of these womens magazines put the men&#8217;s ones to shame though. More is obscene &#8211; I think that most of the FHM/Loaded writers would be embarrassed reading it front of their girlfriends.  I think a nymphomaniac reading it might feel a little inadequate.  Ruth bought one the other day &#8211; can&#8217;t remember which one but I think it was one of the ones you mentioned.  It had a couple of excerpts from &#8220;diaries&#8221; from four so-called &#8220;typical&#8221; men in their twenties who basically shagged anything that moved for a week.  The bias of the article seemed to be that all men are like this and women would be shocked to find this out.</p>
<p>All we need is a quality newspaper to merge with the star or something.  Then you&#8217;d get stuff to read inbetween ogling.</p>
<p>PS on the subject of the star &#8211; no, I didn&#8217;t buy it &#8211; but it is another example of newspapers stealing images from the web and not crediting them. (Charles with Camilla as a horse from B3ta midweek.)</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Word&#039;s OK but it&#039;s still a niche thing: music with a bit of film and books (and as you say, an iPod fetish). Uncut&#039;s similar - good, but a bit narrow in its focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Word&#8217;s OK but it&#8217;s still a niche thing: music with a bit of film and books (and as you say, an iPod fetish). Uncut&#8217;s similar &#8211; good, but a bit narrow in its focus.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Lamont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman Lamont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Word? I&#039;ve gone from picking up the odd one every couple of months to  actually looking forward to it. It seems to be emphasising books as much as music now and I&#039;ve discovered some interesting stuff from it. If they&#039;d only get off the iPod addiction ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Word? I&#8217;ve gone from picking up the odd one every couple of months to  actually looking forward to it. It seems to be emphasising books as much as music now and I&#8217;ve discovered some interesting stuff from it. If they&#8217;d only get off the iPod addiction &#8230;</p>
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