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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This must be about the only blog where the spam commenters are defended.</description>
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		<title>By: Squander Two</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/2302/comment-page-1#comment-13673</link>
		<dc:creator>Squander Two</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, are you just myopic, Gary?  You lightweight.  &lt;i&gt;I&#039;m&lt;/i&gt; astigmatic.

&lt;i&gt;&gt; there was reasonable evidence to suggest that for some kinds of optical deterioration, exercises did make a difference.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, you&#039;d think so.  Every other muscle in the body can be made to work better through exercise.  Why not the ones controlling the focus and exposure of your eyes?

I believe the current thinking is also that giving kids glasses so that they can learn to read is actually a cause of eyesight problems -- if they didn&#039;t have the glasses, their eyesight would improve itself as they got older.  Course, if they didn&#039;t have the glasses, they wouldn&#039;t be able to learn to read, so it&#039;s a reasonable trade-off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, are you just myopic, Gary?  You lightweight.  <i>I&#8217;m</i> astigmatic.</p>
<p><i>&gt; there was reasonable evidence to suggest that for some kinds of optical deterioration, exercises did make a difference.</i></p>
<p>Well, you&#8217;d think so.  Every other muscle in the body can be made to work better through exercise.  Why not the ones controlling the focus and exposure of your eyes?</p>
<p>I believe the current thinking is also that giving kids glasses so that they can learn to read is actually a cause of eyesight problems &#8212; if they didn&#8217;t have the glasses, their eyesight would improve itself as they got older.  Course, if they didn&#8217;t have the glasses, they wouldn&#8217;t be able to learn to read, so it&#8217;s a reasonable trade-off.</p>
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		<title>By: mupwangle</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/2302/comment-page-1#comment-13672</link>
		<dc:creator>mupwangle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just got new specs and I fear that they make me look like more of a twat than the last ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just got new specs and I fear that they make me look like more of a twat than the last ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/2302/comment-page-1#comment-13670</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skipping the pointless argument... You know, I looked into this a few years ago and I&#039;m pretty sure that there was reasonable evidence to suggest that for some kinds of optical deterioration, exercises did make a difference. Dunno if it&#039;s since been disproven, so I&#039;ll go looking when I have more time. 

That said, i&#039;m coming round to S2&#039;s take on specs: this is a great time to be myopic, because there are finally loads of decent, inexpensive specs to choose from. When I was a teenager the choice was National Skelpers or Sinister Taxi Driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skipping the pointless argument&#8230; You know, I looked into this a few years ago and I&#8217;m pretty sure that there was reasonable evidence to suggest that for some kinds of optical deterioration, exercises did make a difference. Dunno if it&#8217;s since been disproven, so I&#8217;ll go looking when I have more time. </p>
<p>That said, i&#8217;m coming round to S2&#8242;s take on specs: this is a great time to be myopic, because there are finally loads of decent, inexpensive specs to choose from. When I was a teenager the choice was National Skelpers or Sinister Taxi Driver.</p>
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		<title>By: mupwangle</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/2302/comment-page-1#comment-13669</link>
		<dc:creator>mupwangle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I think Stephen was criticising her writing,

And fluency is about being able to express ideas clearly rather than completely accurate spelling and grammar.  Fluency is about flow rather than accuracy.  Someone who can perfectly construct sentences and spell every word correctly cannot be described as fluent in another language if they cannot make themselves understood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I think Stephen was criticising her writing,</p>
<p>And fluency is about being able to express ideas clearly rather than completely accurate spelling and grammar.  Fluency is about flow rather than accuracy.  Someone who can perfectly construct sentences and spell every word correctly cannot be described as fluent in another language if they cannot make themselves understood.</p>
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		<title>By: Squander Two</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/2302/comment-page-1#comment-13668</link>
		<dc:creator>Squander Two</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Stephen was criticising her writing, which is actually very good.  I mean, &quot;didn&#039;t find&quot; instead of &quot;haven&#039;t found&quot;, &quot;list&quot; instead of &quot;least&quot;, &quot;treat&quot; instead of &quot;treats&quot;, &quot;did the big step&quot; instead of &quot;took the big step&quot;... these are &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; minor errors.

&lt;i&gt;&gt; Logic would suggest a company concerned about projecting a professional image would ensure its salespeople were fluent in the languages that they sell in.&lt;/i&gt;

You win this week&#039;s prize for misuse of the word &quot;logic&quot;.  What are you, illiterate?

Anyway, Evgania&#039;s not a salesperson; she&#039;s the head of her own company.  Say what you like about Easyjet, but Stelios has happily appeared in his own adverts speaking his slightly imperfect English, and he is neither stupid nor fraudulent.  Come to think of it, one of my colleagues is Ukrainian and speaks good but imperfect English and has just spent a few months in Canada doing important work for a major new client.  &lt;i&gt;No-one&lt;/i&gt; thinks it was unprofessional to send her.  Myself, when I see that a company has employed salespeople fluent in the languages of every country they sell in, the only conclusion I draw from that is that they must have a huge budget.

We all have fun (quite rightly) taking the piss out of Brit chavs like Shlaine and Caine Haine when they try to write in their own language and fail.  That&#039;s not remotely the same as taking the piss out of a foreigner whose English is excellent but not quite perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Stephen was criticising her writing, which is actually very good.  I mean, &#8220;didn&#8217;t find&#8221; instead of &#8220;haven&#8217;t found&#8221;, &#8220;list&#8221; instead of &#8220;least&#8221;, &#8220;treat&#8221; instead of &#8220;treats&#8221;, &#8220;did the big step&#8221; instead of &#8220;took the big step&#8221;&#8230; these are <i>very</i> minor errors.</p>
<p><i>&gt; Logic would suggest a company concerned about projecting a professional image would ensure its salespeople were fluent in the languages that they sell in.</i></p>
<p>You win this week&#8217;s prize for misuse of the word &#8220;logic&#8221;.  What are you, illiterate?</p>
<p>Anyway, Evgania&#8217;s not a salesperson; she&#8217;s the head of her own company.  Say what you like about Easyjet, but Stelios has happily appeared in his own adverts speaking his slightly imperfect English, and he is neither stupid nor fraudulent.  Come to think of it, one of my colleagues is Ukrainian and speaks good but imperfect English and has just spent a few months in Canada doing important work for a major new client.  <i>No-one</i> thinks it was unprofessional to send her.  Myself, when I see that a company has employed salespeople fluent in the languages of every country they sell in, the only conclusion I draw from that is that they must have a huge budget.</p>
<p>We all have fun (quite rightly) taking the piss out of Brit chavs like Shlaine and Caine Haine when they try to write in their own language and fail.  That&#8217;s not remotely the same as taking the piss out of a foreigner whose English is excellent but not quite perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: mupwangle</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/2302/comment-page-1#comment-13665</link>
		<dc:creator>mupwangle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless she completely went mental in the second half of that (I got bored), then you seem to be misunderstanding the word fluent.  She was quite heavily accented, but still seemed clear enough to me.

What she said may or may not have been bollocks, but it&#039;s a bit of an ad hominem to criticise her accent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless she completely went mental in the second half of that (I got bored), then you seem to be misunderstanding the word fluent.  She was quite heavily accented, but still seemed clear enough to me.</p>
<p>What she said may or may not have been bollocks, but it&#8217;s a bit of an ad hominem to criticise her accent.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/2302/comment-page-1#comment-13664</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you used your French or German on French or German websites to try to sell stuff then I would think you were stupid or fraudulent or both, yes. Logic would suggest a company concerned about projecting a professional image would ensure its salespeople were fluent in the languages that they sell in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you used your French or German on French or German websites to try to sell stuff then I would think you were stupid or fraudulent or both, yes. Logic would suggest a company concerned about projecting a professional image would ensure its salespeople were fluent in the languages that they sell in.</p>
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		<title>By: Squander Two</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/2302/comment-page-1#comment-13663</link>
		<dc:creator>Squander Two</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, what are you saying, Stephen?  That because it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;possible&lt;/i&gt; to achieve perfect fluency in a second language, it&#039;s OK to call anyone who fails to do so &quot;borderline illiterate&quot; and claim that that failure implies that they&#039;re stupid or fraudulent or both?  Nice.  My French and German are both far far worse than Evgania&#039;s English (which is actually excellent), so I must just be full-on cut-my-finger-off-and-I-can&#039;t-read illiterate.  And there was me thinking that an ability to communicate in three languages was evidence of education.

A quick look at Google shows that, if Evgania does have a lot of dissatisfied customers out there, they don&#039;t seem to be writing about it on the Web.  Course, maybe that&#039;s because they can&#039;t see, but hey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, what are you saying, Stephen?  That because it&#8217;s <i>possible</i> to achieve perfect fluency in a second language, it&#8217;s OK to call anyone who fails to do so &#8220;borderline illiterate&#8221; and claim that that failure implies that they&#8217;re stupid or fraudulent or both?  Nice.  My French and German are both far far worse than Evgania&#8217;s English (which is actually excellent), so I must just be full-on cut-my-finger-off-and-I-can&#8217;t-read illiterate.  And there was me thinking that an ability to communicate in three languages was evidence of education.</p>
<p>A quick look at Google shows that, if Evgania does have a lot of dissatisfied customers out there, they don&#8217;t seem to be writing about it on the Web.  Course, maybe that&#8217;s because they can&#8217;t see, but hey.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, whatever. Because it&#039;s impossible to achieve fluency in any language other than your first. Obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, whatever. Because it&#8217;s impossible to achieve fluency in any language other than your first. Obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: Squander Two</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/2302/comment-page-1#comment-13660</link>
		<dc:creator>Squander Two</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we can spot that something&#039;s bollocks without insulting someone for having the nerve to have a first language other than English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can spot that something&#8217;s bollocks without insulting someone for having the nerve to have a first language other than English.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/2302/comment-page-1#comment-13656</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that a bunch of &quot;eye exercises&quot; will obviate the need for surgery. Definitely. Especially exercises being sold by a borderline illiterate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that a bunch of &#8220;eye exercises&#8221; will obviate the need for surgery. Definitely. Especially exercises being sold by a borderline illiterate.</p>
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